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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 16:11    Post subject: 4 Acres of Guns and Gear
4 Acres of Guns and Gear
1. Looks like the Burgh will be in the news this month
2. And so begins the rhetoric from the zealots on either sides of gun issue
3. Lots o'billboards around town (especially in my hoop-y county)
4. 55,000 is a whole lotta people
5. In an election year, donuts to dollars that Bush or Cheney make an appearance
6. Sorry, no room at the Sahara Hotel if you were interested in coming

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Groups target NRA meeting
Gun lobby fights negative attacks
Wednesday, March 31, 2004

By Michael A. Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Anyone wondering how a newly formed local coalition opposed to gun violence feels about the National Rifle Association holding its annual convention in Pittsburgh next month need only look at the name of the organization's Web site: GoodByeNRA.org.

Yesterday, the Confluence Against Gun Violence fired the first volley in what likely will be a battle of ideological banter with the NRA when it held a news conference in Shadyside and characterized the NRA as a violent, militaristic, racist, sexist and homophobic organization.

"Pittsburgh says 'No' to the NRA and the NRA leadership and its racism and hatred and policies of violence," said Nathaniel Glosser, president of the Rosenberg Institute for Peace & Justice.

Not surprisingly, Andrew Arulanandam, the NRA public affairs director, denied such charges.

"Certainly there are groups that are behemoth and shrill in their opposition to the NRA and certainly this is a mischaracterization of the NRA," he said from Fairfax. Va.

Glosser took umbrage that the NRA's 133rd annual meetings and exhibits, to be held April 16-18 at the David L. Lawrence Convention Center, Downtown, are being publicized on billboards locally as "four acres of guns and gear."
"A large segment of the community is not happy about that," he said.

"Most NRA members are wonderful people who support responsible handling of guns," said Kenny Steinberg, president of Pennsylvanians Against Handgun Violence. "The NRA leadership for some reason is opposed to laws [requiring guns to be unloaded and locked] and any reasonable legislation."

Also, speaking against the NRA were Hill Jordan of the Pittsburgh chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Rev. Greg Swiderski of the Association of Pittsburgh Priests and, as a private citizen, Dr. Edward Mulvey, a professor of psychiatry at Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic.

Other groups in the coalition include the Thomas Merton Center, the Allegheny County Million Mom March and Pittsburgh Stand for Children Organizing Group.

The speakers said the recent revelation that a 9-year-old boy armed with his mother's gun accidentally killed postal carrier Clayton J. Smith at the Crafton-Ingram Shopping Center in June was a tragic example of why legislation is needed to require adults to be responsible gun owners.

Glosser said the group plans counter-activities but has no plans to try to disrupt the NRA sessions. A teach-in will be held April 15 at the William Pitt Union at the University of Pittsburgh; a candlelight vigil to remember victims of gun violence will be held the evening of April 16 outside the convention center; and a rally and concert will be held there April 17.

The NRA gathering is shaping up to be the largest ever, Arulanandam said, with more than 55,000 people already registered. Usually, at this point in the registration process that number would be close to but less than 50,000, he said.

This year's keynote speaker for the member's banquet has not been announced, but there is speculation that it will be either President George W. Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney. Arulanandam said he could not confirm whether either man would be attending.
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 16:16    Post subject:
Sounds like a good time to me.
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 16:22    Post subject:
could be worse,

could be four acres of guns and beer
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 16:26    Post subject:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
could be worse,

could be four acres of guns and beer


That's a typical family reunion around here.
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 16:28    Post subject:
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could be worse,

could be four acres of guns and beer


And what's the problem with guns and beer? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 16:33    Post subject:
akern wrote:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
could be worse,

could be four acres of guns and beer


That's a typical family reunion around here.

and your family tree is made by AT&T?

y'all share the teeth at dinner time?

the mayor is the most educated and was elected since he gradeated the 6th grade?

All the virgins are fast. they've been outrunning thier brothers.

forgot my Wink these aren't ment for you in particular Achey. just my opinion of the beer swilling NRA member


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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 16:42    Post subject:
Unfortunately, while the VAST majority of gun owners are responsible, safe people, the laxity of some states' laws and enforcement are what make this such a hot button issue. For instance, it OK to carry a weapon in your car in SC, without any permits. All you need there is for someone to cut off a good ol boy who's been to the local watering hole.

Before I get "vilified" by the gun side I own 2 handguns and one shotgun. I had a concealed permit when I lived in CT. I think we need better enforcement of current laws, harsher punishments for gun based crimes.

I sometimes get the feeling the NRA has photos of our legislators in bed with the devil. How many other organizations, can get laws passed exempting the manufacturers from lawsuits ? (within HOURS of an announcement to sue). On the plus side the NRA does sponsor safety classes, and has good programs promoting responsible ownership.

Little know fact: the NRA's emphasis of the Second Amendment did not start happening until about 10 years or so when their membership was dropping so they worked on a new angle.

This is such an emotional issue it will not be settled here or by the people in Pittsburg.
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 17:07    Post subject:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
akern wrote:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
could be worse,

could be four acres of guns and beer


That's a typical family reunion around here.

and your family tree is made by AT&T?

y'all share the teeth at dinner time?

the mayor is the most educated and was elected since he gradeated the 6th grade?

All the virgins are fast. they've been outrunning thier brothers.

forgot my Wink these aren't ment for you in particular Achey. just my opinion of the beer swilling NRA member


And my opinion of you just hurtled downward. NRA member and gee, I like beer. No I do not mix beer and guns.
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 17:09    Post subject:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
akern wrote:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
could be worse,

could be four acres of guns and beer


That's a typical family reunion around here.

and your family tree is made by AT&T?

y'all share the teeth at dinner time?

the mayor is the most educated and was elected since he gradeated the 6th grade?

All the virgins are fast. they've been outrunning thier brothers.

forgot my Wink these aren't ment for you in particular Achey. just my opinion of the beer swilling NRA member


You just have to love blanket statements.
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 17:35    Post subject:
robp wrote:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
akern wrote:
HYPERASHEL wrote:
could be worse,

could be four acres of guns and beer


That's a typical family reunion around here.

and your family tree is made by AT&T?

y'all share the teeth at dinner time?

the mayor is the most educated and was elected since he gradeated the 6th grade?

All the virgins are fast. they've been outrunning thier brothers.

forgot my Wink these aren't ment for you in particular Achey. just my opinion of the beer swilling NRA member


And my opinion of you just hurtled downward. NRA member and gee, I like beer. No I do not mix beer and guns.



Well, i'll have to apologize for the generalizations.
i will however not apologize on my opnion. i saw too many gun shot wounds when i was a teen-ager. granted not from the country boy but from inner city thug.
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 17:51    Post subject:
i just saw these billboards up today here. Shocked

i'm thinkin' i should go -- i need some new gear. wth is gear?
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 18:04    Post subject:
rolling rock wrote:
i'm thinkin' i should go -- i need some new gear. wth is gear?


Gear is slang for genital piercings. Razz
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PostPosted: 03/31/04 - 18:10    Post subject:
purple hayes wrote:
rolling rock wrote:
i'm thinkin' i should go -- i need some new gear. wth is gear?


Gear is slang for genital piercings. Razz

oh my LOL
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PostPosted: 04/01/04 - 09:35    Post subject:
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Well, i'll have to apologize for the generalizations.
i will however not apologize on my opnion. i saw too many gun shot wounds when i was a teen-ager. granted not from the country boy but from inner city thug.


I am sure most of those guns were bought legally and most of those using them where members of the NRA.

andydp wrote:
I sometimes get the feeling the NRA has photos of our legislators in bed with the devil. How many other organizations, can get laws passed exempting the manufacturers from lawsuits ? (within HOURS of an announcement to sue). On the plus side the NRA does sponsor safety classes, and has good programs promoting responsible ownership.


Why should gun manufacturers be sued? It is a person that causes damage using firearms, not a manufacturer defect. It is absurd to think that gun manufacturers could be sure for their product causing harm. I mean do you sure care manufacturers when a car runs someone over? Alchol manufacturers because somebody gets drunk and gets into an accident? Or ski mask manufacturers when ski masked are used in an armed robbery? How about makers of kitchen cutlery because a kitchen knife is used to stab some one?

Just for the record I am not a member of the NRA, and I don't support everything they do. But I am a huge supporter of the 2nd Amendment.
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PostPosted: 04/01/04 - 09:42    Post subject:
Running Brewer wrote:
I mean do you sure care manufacturers when a car runs someone over? Alchol manufacturers because somebody gets drunk and gets into an accident? How about makers of kitchen cutlery because a kitchen knife is used to stab some one?


It's only a matter of time before money grubbing lawyers and their money grubbing clients take aim at those potential profit markets (especially automobile and alcohol).
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